# chances before drug offenders go to prison instead of rehab
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DT Instructor 108 posts |
You could argue pedophilia, sociopathy and psychopathy are also diseases of the brain. Whether due to chemical imbalance, psychological or social issues, really depends on which side of the fence you come down on. Treatable or curable? I don’t think so. |
Mick 307 posts |
Chrissy. It may have escaped your notice but Corrections have nothing to do with sentencing. We receive those that the Judiciary deem to have broken the law and have been sentenced to a term of imprisonment. So your rant on a Corrections forum is a wasted effort. |
Chrissy 2 posts |
I don’t agree with the lock ‘em up mentality of this state of delaware in particular. Addiction is in fact a disease of the brain. I am looking at that recent suicide death at JTVCC in Smyrna delaware. That young man was placed in secured housing unit to await placement in a rehab program. From what I hear, he was sick withdrawing. Is this what we do to sick people? Delaware needs to use some of those wasted funds used on bull crap or lining politicians pockets and have a separate holding facility for these addicts—not prison. Something wrong with this incident. That inidividual’s death could have and SHOULD HAVE been prevented. |
Chrissy 2 posts |
I don’t agree with the lock ‘em up mentality of this state of delaware in particular. Addiction is in fact a disease of the brain. I am looking at that recent suicide death at JTVCC in Smyrna delaware. That young man was placed in secured housing unit to await placement in a rehab program. From what I hear, he was sick withdrawing. Is this what we do to sick people? Delaware needs to use some of those wasted funds used on bull crap or lining politicians pockets and have a separate holding facility for these addicts—not prison. Something wrong with this incident. That inidividual’s death could have and SHOULD HAVE been prevented. |
jamestown0509 313 posts |
Most of the drug offenders that are PV (parole violators) are brought before the board before trial or sentencing to determine if they have violated the conditions of parole and if they have are given a final determination hearing. At that hearing which I have attended many times as a CO the NY State Parole Administrative Law Judge usually gives them a sentence to the Willard Drug Treatment Program for 90 days. If the inmate successfully completes Willard the time is subtracted off the back of their sentence as a credit, much the same if the parole board sentences them to shock camp for 6 months.If on the other hand the inmate fails either one of those drug rehab programs they can be sent back to do the program again or in some cases the State DOC changes them to a prison sentence in lieu of the drug program. Many of those inmates I have seen hate to go back to the drug programs that they have done more than one time and that is one of the reasons we have so much recidivism. |
COGrim 25 posts |
GalaxyDude- Really, again with the talk of flogging? That’s not going to happen. This is NOT and will never be an “option” in this day and age. JailNation- STOP spamming. You’ve made 5 posts in 5 different discussions all saying the same thing with your link at the bottom. Are you even READING the posts before pasting your covert advertisement for Jail Nation? I’m guessing no. |
GalaxyDude 7 posts |
One option we have not tried in a long time is corporal punishment. For serious drug offenses involving coke, meth and heroin, a good flogging would discourage both sales and use of illegal drugs without the harmful effects of incarceration. We are very slowing winning the War on Drugs, but victory is by no means certain with the tools we now use. |
Jon 52 posts |
Prohibition does not work. Addiction is a disease of the brain. Do we lock up cancer patients? Right now, the latest figures demonstrate the costs to American Society is over half a trillion dollars per year due to issues of addiction. A significant portion of this is the costs related to incarcerating addicts. Mankind has been finding ways to alter his moods and feelings since the dawn of recorded history. Only in the last 100 years or so have we sought in various societies to lock up people who use, typically at the behest of someone with: a) a lot of money to influence the legislators to write these “Scarlet Letter,” draconian laws; b) a “holier than thou,” and an “ignore rational authority,” attitude, resulting in viewing addiction as a “character,” or “moral,” defect, rather than the scientific conclusion it is a disease; or, worse c) a combination of both… Issues of addiction require treatment, not imprisonment…those persons calling for imprisonment are irrational and need to wake up… |
shakey 191 posts |
Need to start cracking down?…What the hell has the States and Gov. been doing for the last decade. Lock’en up lock’en up and then lock’en up again. With nothing to show but broken familys and dreams for the same shit a lot of us done as teenagers, the only difference was that back then it was a misdemeaner, not a felony with a life long record as a felon, so you can’t be a equal citizen anymore with that lable attached to your name. Just as proabition is laughed at these days the same is being thought about on the war on drugs policys. I’m a firm believer in smoking Marijuana, drinking beer, smoking tobacco, eating fatty foods, oh and looking at internet porn. It’s about freedom, the right to chose what can physically or moraly harm you. Not having man place restictions on a way of life, they want you to live. DON’T get me wrong you commit a crime ie…burglery, assualt, or any other violent crime because it’s related to drugs or because your father didn’t show you the love you thought you desevered or what ever, you do time. You should be able to grow your own like you can with making beer or wine, and fall under the same punishment for selling/distibition as you would any other controlled substance without a Lic. Treat the person with the addiction and any who needs help, All in all it makes better since to not place a felony record on someone if it does more harm than good for the community, with a felony lable a few will brake the from the herd to live a productive life but the majority will be stuck and have to rely on assistance, as in welfare or break more laws to survive. This is one of the links inthe chain that needs fixed, not locking them up. I am a corrections officer but I won’t think of this a job security |
SSG Eakes 4 posts |
We need to start cracking down on drug offense to cause some corrective actions. Because unless you change there thinking you want change anything. |
Mick 307 posts |
They should be given One chance and One chance only. Let us not forget they did this to themselves. Their drug of choice has not been legal for nearly a century if ever at all. Nobody forced them to go out the first time and break the law by buying/taking the drugs. They knew that the drugs were likely to be addictive yet they still took them. So why should some Junkie be given a second chance after throwing away the first one. |
Comfortably ... 154 posts |
greenshirt, but think of the job security. They’ll always need us as long as they keep sending them to us. |
ohiogreenshirt 5 posts |
Seeing how our state (Ohio) is doing fiscally, I wouldn’t mind if the state just left the druggies alone. As long as they are not hurting anyone else, they can smoke crack till they die for all I care. We are overpopulated as it is. Hell, all of our units have bed areas now….No cells for them. I say save the space for violent offenders. But that’s just me talkin’. |
jlbbhar 1 post | The politicians have brainwashed the public for so long that the point of drug use and prison terms is not even the issue. Most people should know that it costs approximated $30,000 to $40,000 dollars every year to house, feed, educate, rehabilitate, etc., inmates. Then, if they have a medical problem, the cost can run into millions of dollars. Wouldn't it make more sense to spend a heck of a lot less money to just rehab them in free society??? Prisons are NOT the place for drug offenders! Community Corrections should be the main avenue of consideration for ALL drug users. I believe each county should foot the bill for their own Community Corrections Centers. I believe if we keep this type of issue in the community, we will end up with better results. |
jbwannafish 1 post | Two. First time they are usually given a break. The second time they want rehab only to get out of going to prison. Prisons have rehab for inmates. They can get rehab in prison. |
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